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collapseReplicates in DESeq2 when the number of technical replicates per biosample is different

Good afternoon,

I have a question about using collapseReplicates in DESeq2. As far as I understand, this function adds up the counts belonging to one biosample. I understand the meaning of this if the number of technical replicates per biosample is the same for all samples. Please tell me what should I do if the number of technical replicates per sample differs?

For example, SAMNXXXXX corresponds to SRRXXXXX1 (count = 5) and SRRXXXXX2 (count = 6), SAMNYYYYY corresponds only to SRRYYYYY1 (count = 10). If I add up the counts for SAMNXXXXX (5 + 6 = 11) and then compare it with count for SAMNYYYYY (10), I will get an incorrect conclusion that the expression is higher in SAMNXXXXX.

Maybe I need to take the arithmetic mean or something else? It seems to me that the arithmetic mean is not very reasonable. For example, I have counts of 181 and 2 for different replicates of the same biosample.

Note: this situation is not observed for most samples. For example, in a particular dataset there are 89 biosamples without technical replicates and and 5 biosamples with 2 technical replicates in each.

Thanks!

Good regards, Poecile

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Collasping technical replicates takes place before DESeq2 internal normalization, so you don't need to worry about the arithmetrics. Difference in sequencing depth will be handled exactly as with non-collapsed samples: by dividing the counts by a size factor calculated based on the median of ratio method. Therefore, it is ok to not have the same number of technical replicates by biosample.

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written by Carlo Yague Carlo Yague

Thank you very much! Сould you please confirm that I am acting in the correct order?

chopped.txi_ex <- tximport(files_ex, type="salmon", ignoreAfterBar = TRUE, ignoreTxVersion   = TRUE, tx2gene=chopped.tx2gene[,c("tx_id", "ensgene")], countsFromAbundance="lengthScaledTPM")
ddsg_ex <- DESeqDataSetFromTximport(chopped.txi_ex, colData = metag_ex, design = ~ diag)
ddsg_ex <- collapseReplicates(ddsg_ex,
                                        groupby = ddsg_ex$experimentg,
                                        run = ddsg_ex$rung)
ddsg_ex <- DESeq(ddsg_ex)
contrast_oeg_ex <- c("diag", "cancer", "normal")
res_tableOEg_ex <- DESeq2::results(ddsg_ex, contrast=contrast_oeg_ex, alpha = 0.05)

e t.c.

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Normalization happens after collapseReplicates, during this step:

ddsg_ex <- DESeq(ddsg_ex)

So you are all good !

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