Thanks Devon! That's great news :) Certainly makes things a lot easier, and explains why I couldn't find a field for orientation :)
This leaves either 10 or 12 possible combinations for mapping a read pair, depending on whether a singleton can be first/second in a pair (i guess it can, which gives 12 combinations in total, rather than 10).
I wish I could mark it as the answer, but as you only commented all I can do is give you an upvote :P


but most of the time, you don't really want to know if there is a diffrence in the count of `both reads are mapped + 1st read is forward, 2nd read is reverse' vs `both reads are mapped + 2st read is forward, 1st read is reverse' (furthermore, are they properly mapped ?) etc... people `use samtools view` to exclude/include anc count reads , or `samtools flagstats`
I agree, it is somewhat less interesting than the core information flagstat gives you - but I suppose for a sanity-check it would be nice to know that those two possibilities occur roughly the same amount and their isn't first-in-pair = sense strand bias (which actually there is, but its not enough for people to care about..)
The main point of this post was to find out if there is an orientation variable. If an aligner will both try the reverse-compliment AND just-reverse on a read, and if so where the latter information is stored :)
Sense and anti-sense have no general meaning when talking about the genome. That only makes sense in terms of RNAseq when mapped to the genome, since then while the alignments are in genomic coordinates, the strand can also dictate sense information in transcriptome-space.
In general, the possible mapping orientations will depend on the aligner and the settings you give it. For example, you can disable discordant and singleton alignments in many aligners.
Thank you for your comment Devon (and as always you too Pierre!), but I fear I am not explaining myself very well.
Perhaps sense and anti-sense is a misnomer, but a read can be mapped in 4 possible ways:
I don't know if aligners do the latter two, and my question is simply, do they - and if so - where is that information stored?