Re: Microbiome retraction. I'm really having time squaring the observations in the rebuttal (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41388-024-02974-w) with the ensuing conversation on X.
My reading of the original commentary paper (https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/mbio.01607-23) is that sequences of human origin were not properly filtered, both up-front (through alignment to multiple human references) and competitively (through including human reference(s) in the taxonomy database). This would be the primary flaw. A secondary flaw is also mentioned with regards to normalization of taxonomic data using VOOM, which can impute differences (due to estimated pseudo-library sizes) where none exist.
The rebuttal, in my view, is a tacit agreement that insufficient decontamination was performed -- but that even with (i) extra decontamination (ii) updated normalization + batch correction and (iii) inclusion of human sequences (or removal of contaminated human sequences )in the taxonomy database, there is still a very clear difference in taxa abundance between tumor types (though the specific "driver" taxa do change) -- see "Applying the T2T-KrakenUniq-MicrobialDB pipeline to all of TCGA verifies the existence of cancer type-specific microbiomes"
Yet on X, Salzberg writes:
their response in @oncogenejournal didn't address either of the major flaws we pointed out, but pretended that it did by mis-stating (intentionally, I think) our arguments. Oncogene never asked me for comments
Am I mis-reading the rebuttal? Where is the hoodwink?
One possibility is that they're still simply excluding human sequences from Kraken - but "T2T-KrakenUniq-MicrobialDB" refers to the Salzberg pipeline, which does have these.
I remember some time ago a paper regarding extensive RNA editing being shot down by Pritchard who demonstrated that it was mostly alignment artifacts, and that accounting for the bioinformatic errors rendered the original conclusions completely wrong. That was a no-brainer for retraction -- yet was never retracted
Original https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1207018
Comment https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1210484
In this case, it seems like the original conclusions stand, but the specifics of the classifier itself are different. I would be very on-the-fence about issuing a full retraction of the original paper...