Hi, Istvan, Thanks for the reply. So, you mean, it's possible that my instrument only sequenced the inserts with size over 120bp, and discard fragment less than that? I was using Hiseq2500 and 125bp PE, and I will figure out the minimum size they sequenced.. Thanks!
Hi, I'm totally new here and totally new to bioinformatic (I think I technically started learning this last week)
Story goes like this, I got my atac-seq fastq data last Monday, and I started to turn these fastq files into peaks. I learnt how to trim, align and visualize my data and a little bit QC afterward.
I chose Trimmomatic in the galaxy of my university (Illuminaclip Nextera pair end adapter) to trim my fastq file, and got 4 files, 2 paireds, and 2 unpaireds. I only aligned my paired fastq files with Bowtie2 -X 2000, and got mapped rate as 90%. I converted the BAM files (default output of the bowtie2 in our galaxy) into bedgraph then tdf in IGV for visualization. I plotted the distribution of the reads surrounding the TSS of my annotated genome and got highly enrichment near TSS.
OK, weird thing happened. I plotted the insert distribution using picard tool, and got this plot:

It appeared that I lost all the inserts smaller than 120 bp which is actually the nucleosome-free-regions that I need most.
Then I guessed I must have some data that were not mapped, so I went back to my fastq file, and found those unpaired data generated from Trimmomatic are huge. For example, each of the paired file is 8 GB, and one unpaired R1 file is 4.5GB, the other is 10mb.
I wonder whether my nucleosome-free-regions just lied in these unpaired data, and how I can combine this unpaired data with my paired data generated from Trimmomatic?
Thanks,
Huan
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The insert size refers to the size of the DNA fragment that is sequenced. Instruments can only sequence fragments over a certain size.
I can't help but suspect that you are misusing the insert size concept and you are interpreting it it as something else that you are interested in measuring. I would suggest to post a new question in which you disentangle your question from trimmomatic and adapter clipping etc. These only confuse the issue and are not related to what you need.
Hi, Istvan, I solved this. I did misunderstood fragment size and insert size for paired end in the very beginning. But this figure I posted is truly the distribution of insert size. I spent a whole day trying different trimmomatic parameter to trim my fastq file and bowtie2 mapping. I found if make <keepbothread> true, which will not dump the reverse sequence, I got tons of insert size smaller than 100 which is what I need for my experiment.
The smallest fragment is a primer dimer (no insert). We know those cluster (and get sequenced) well.
Hi , Insert size and fragment size are always confusing, It would be great help if anybody explain these terms. Thanks,
This is a good discussion about it: Fragment Size: TLEN vs. isize
I think the take-home message is "they're the same unless they definitely aren't" :)
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Sorry, not sure how to upload the figure. You may find figure through this "http://postimg.org/image/m1fmud4u9/"
Well congratulations on your first week, looks like you already learned a lot. Good luck!
Map unpaired reads as single-end data. You should have a look at what sequences get trimmed off – low quality, 3'-end adapter or something else? To investigate the issue, an alternative is to map untrimmed reads with a local mapper such as bowtie2 --local or bwa-mem. These mappers won't map adapter sequences. Sometimes this may be easier when you are not sure what trimmomatic is doing to your data.